MY MENTOR By: Evan Ginzburg
Fred
Geobold was the richest man I’ve ever known.
And I
don’t think he ever broke 25K.
The
receptionist and switchboard operator at 50,000 Watt WBAI-FM, 99.5 in NYC, he
was also an on-air radio host, folk singer, songwriter, concert MC, and
championed untold numbers of musicians during his twenty plus year career.
A short
fellow, with a beer belly, long beautiful red hair, and a big, bushy moustache
to go with it, Fred Geobold was born Fred Kuhn in Shelbyville, Indiana in 1944.
He was legally blind and there was more than one occasion where he’d hit the
wrong button during an on-air Broadcast, and calmly proclaim, “We have dead
air.”
He was
ever so calm.
Fred was
never happier than when he was on air or just sitting around cavernous WBAI
talking politics with the other ancient radio folk who seemed to live at the
studio. “Let’s make some radio,” he’d always say passionately before one of his
thousands of broadcasts.
I met
him through my involvement in the pro wrestling world. He grew up on The
Bruiser, Crusher, and Verne Gagne in the Mid-West, and loved my primitive
looking nostalgic grappling zine, Wrestling-
Then & Now. Inviting me to do a five minute wrestling update segment on
his Arts program, Light Show, which
was heard 3-5AM Friday night/Saturday mornings, I readily agreed. Imagine
thousands of folk listening to me? In 1991 it was a heady feeling for someone
who had just started as an Adult Education teacher after leaving the elementary
classroom. I was still trying to “find myself,” and I had suddenly become a very
small part of a world famous, politically powerful station. We’d often pre-tape
in studio because of the insane hour, and I’d occasionally do it live on air
over the phone. But like clockwork it was heard each and every week, and it was
always amazing to get reaction to it from those graveyard shift workers and
late night revelers. I became hooked on radio and ultimately braved the
question to him, “Can I do more?”
Fred,
who was never anything but supportive to anyone he ever met, of course gave me
the green light and basically carte blanche.
I soon incorporated the Arts into my segment and ultimately expanded to booking artists live on air, so I was now live in studio. Getting on that 2AM subway in Queens always felt eerie as it was nearly vacant going into Manhattan. At 2:45 I’d look at the sole human being in the car besides me and wonder, “Is he going to kill me?” Then I realized he was probably thinking the exact same thing.
Approaching the old WBAI studio at 505 Eight Avenue, there’d be the familiar crew of homeless right outside our door. Either amiably drunk or “sleeping one off,” they were never once a bother. Night manager Max Schmid, with his endless pony tail, would let me into the building and he’d escort me onto the ancient, creaky elevator reminiscent of something out of a silent movie. And you’d never know what to expect once you’d get out of it.
Staggering into the station bleary-eyed, I’d inevitably be jolted by an adrenaline rush caused by the alternate reality I had just been dropped into. For here was a waiting room full of musicians, performance artists, authors, and even larger-than-life professional wrestlers.
It was like a Fellini movie.
While most of the world slept, I was ever so grateful to be right here.
In the middle of this
delightful chaos would be a bemused, smiling Fred Geobold. Carrying too many
CDs for his hands to hold, he'd rush into the studio at 2:59 and change.
Somehow he'd squeeze into every nook and cranny a multitude of instruments as
well as the excited musicians who lugged them in. For many of them it would be
their first time on the air.
"Let's make some
radio," he'd say, contentment written on his face.
And for so many, many
years we did just that. "You're listening to a Light Show," Fred
would announce in that sweet voice so perfect for the airwaves.
He described radio as
“making something out of nothing.” A blank canvas if you will. And I spent some
of the best nights of my life with Fred Geobold at WBAI painting that canvas. Although
an old “folkie,” he was open to absolutely anything. We had everyone from metal
bands to rapper, Profecy, who worked only in Spanish. We didn’t know what the
heck he was saying, but it sure sounded-and felt-wonderful.
Exhilarated after a
broadcast, we'd unwind with our colorful guests and just talk. Of course, with
the incredibly well-rounded Fred, you could discuss literally anything.
And with those
conversations always came laughter
But it sure wasn’t funny
when Fred came down with prostate and bone cancer in 2003. Yet he was so incredibly
nonchalant about it, so fearlessly uncomplaining, that I just assumed he’d pull
through. But suddenly his shock of hair was thinning and eventually almost gone.
And there were weeks at a time that he was out sick as well, and I’d be at the
helm of the show with two other co-hosts.
As our beloved Fred
began to fail and lay in hospice care, I booked an on-air tribute to him. For two
hours musician after musician sang, and our fellow radio hosts came in to
express their love. Even station execs put aside their differences for a change
and stood in unity in their love for Fred.
The show was burned onto
a CD for me and I rushed out to the hospital to play it for him. A fellow DJ
was already there gently strumming a guitar and shot me a look that clearly
read, “It isn’t good.” And one glace at an incredibly frail, bed-ridden Fred
and I realized just that without her needing to say a word. He had that very
same “look” my own Dad did at the end.
I played the CD for him.
In and out of consciousness, he listened to the glowing tributes and kept
repeating, “That’s lovely…that’s lovely.”
It was like he was
hearing his own memorial service. I excused myself. Sitting in the bathroom, I
cried my eyes out.
I said what I feared
would be my final goodbye as he weakly shook my hand. “You take care of
yourself, Fred. Thank you for everything. Thank you...”
Drained, I walked out in
a fog and called the station, encouraging them to get down there immediately.
“He doesn’t have long,” I exclaimed with urgency in my voice.
He was gone the very next
day.
So now there was one
final “show” to do. I organized the entertainment portion of his memorial
service. Calling all of his favorite musicians, not a single one said no.
The old, Greenwich
Village church didn’t have an empty seat that night. There had to be at least 300
people packed in there.
For some odd reason, it
occurred to me that I don’t think I ever saw Fred when he didn’t have a T-shirt
on. I doubt he owned a decent pair of clothes because it just didn’t matter to
him. He certainly didn’t have pricy jewelry or a car, and lived modestly alone in
a tiny apartment after his roller derby queen girlfriend left. I’d venture a guess
he probably didn’t have a lot saved, either.
But a thought suddenly dawned
on me as I stood at that podium looking out at the throngs of people who had
come here to honor their lost comrade.
Fred Geobold was truly
the most successful man I’d ever met.
One by one the musicians
sang not only their songs but Fred’s praises. All were so very grateful for the
support he had given them.
I even had a massive 300
plus pound masked wrestler, The Mambo King, pay tribute while in full ring
regalia. Hey, Fred was a warm, funny, sensitive guy, but he sure treasured his
steel-cage matches.
He would have loved
this.
In a weird way the
memorial felt like another gig. It took the longest time for it to sink in that
I’d never, ever see the guy again.
During Fred’s illness we
had moved to a 2PM Wednesday time slot. Little did I know that our “reward” for
all the time spent in the middle of the night would be the beginning of the end
for me at WBAI. We suddenly heard murmurs that we weren’t raising enough funds.
“Others” deserved a slot at this time. Relatives and friends of the execs
wanted a piece of the pie. We went from every week to three times a month. And
one day after 16 years on the show, I was called into “the office” and told my
voice wasn’t as professional as my colleagues, that I didn’t engineer, that another
on air host had spent more time attending station meetings and such and
deserved the show “because she was a woman.”
But I knew it was really
all about being in the middle of the dial, middle of the day. The slot had
become prime real estate. For our “listener supported, non-commercial radio,”
the power play felt disgracefully “Wall Street” to me. Ironically, and probably
fittingly, that was right where the station had moved to. Fred would have been
appalled at the apathy that my “firing” was met with there.
A mere couple of weeks
later I started my own Net radio show, Legends
Radio, and haven’t looked back since. And with the show and my club
bookings, I’ve tried to champion artists that few others have.
Fred Geobold was more
than my radio mentor He was also a dear friend. We'd go to clubs and listen to
the music he loved so much, promote and host gigs together, and even hit the wrestling
shows.
I loved Fred Geobold.
And always will.
When I look back at my
now fifty plus years on this planet, I realize that meeting him was one of the
greatest blessings I’ve ever had.
I may never be the radio
man Fred was with that soothing voice of his, but he sure taught me how to “make
something out of nothing.”
Every time I’m on air, he’s
still there with me somehow.
So as you used to say
after each and every broadcast, Fred, “Stay tuned.”
Yes, stay tuned.
Evan Ginzburg is the Associate Producer of The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke, Producer of Theresa Sareo Alive Again with Gary Sinise and Lanny Poffo, Host of Legends Radio and Host of Legends TV. He is the author of Apartment 4B, Like in Brooklyn.
